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Date:Mon Feb 10 13:08:15 2003 
Subject:Re: bham's $poplocal/local directory (ved_aspell) 
From:Aaron Sloman 
Volume-ID:1030210.03 

lucb@telus.net writes:

> Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 06:35:58 +0000 (UTC)
> Organization: cs.bham.ac.uk MAIL->NEWS gateway
>
> I'm looking for ved_ispell, which I assume is somewhere in
> $poplocal/local at bham,

I understand ispell has been phased out and is replaced by aspell, which
can emulate ispell. aspell is being replaced by pspell, which subsumes
it.
            http://aspell.sourceforge.net/
            http://pspell.sourceforge.net/

LIB ved_aspell HELP ved_aspell, and the corresponding out of date LIB
ved_ispell and HELP ved_ispell are included in the bham packages listed
below. The smallest one is bhamteach.tar.gz

You can also fetch the ved aspell files individually:

    http://www.cs.bham.ac.uk/research/poplog/auto/ved_aspell.p
        7685 bytes
    http://www.cs.bham.ac.uk/research/poplog/help/ved_aspell
        11971 bytes

This allows you to run aspell either interactively on the current file,
or in 'batch mode' i.e. it produces a list of words it does not
recognize. There are ved utilities for doing things with the list.

(Similarly ved_ispell, which I have not used for some time. I don't know
if it still works.)

> along with a bunch of other useful things.
> I've already installed Pop locally (didn't use the INSTALL_LIKE_BHAM
> script) .

Just out of curiosity, which version of poplog did you install?

I want to phase out these
    http://www.cs.bham.ac.uk/research/poplog/new/linux1553.tar.gz
    http://www.cs.bham.ac.uk/research/poplog/new/linuxmotif1553.tar.gz
which include pre-built binaries and saved images that will not work
on all versions of linux

and just use this:
    http://www.cs.bham.ac.uk/research/poplog/new/linux-poplog.tar.gz
            12946926 bytes (can change)

which comes with scripts for building the saved images, and also has
some of the birmingham extras included in the $poplocal/local directory.
I plan to move some of them into the main system, but it requires
work I've not yet had time for.

Currently it includes this as a separate file:
    http://www.cs.bham.ac.uk/research/poplog/new/linuxmotif1553a.tar.gz
            10049815 bytes (can change)

(with scripts for linking for motif or without motif).

> Would there be any point in just copying the  $poplocal/local
> directory from bham if it were available say as a tar. I.e., is the
> bham specific stuff available separately, without needing to do a
> reinstallation?

If you already have a running poplog, and you have set up your directory
$poplocal/local in a suitable place then you can fetch one of these:

    http://www.cs.bham.ac.uk/research/poplog/bhamteach.tar.gz
            1259690 bytes (can change)
        A minimal extension to poplog to provide the most useful birmingham
        extensions, for our students.
        Originally selected so as to be able to fit on a floppy.

    http://www.cs.bham.ac.uk/research/poplog/bham.tar.gz
            2175278 bytes (can change)
        A more extensive collection of bham extensions to poplog.
        (Includes rclib but not newkit (SimAgent)).

    http://www.cs.bham.ac.uk/research/poplog/popextras.tar
            9072640 bytes
        Includes the above extensions and other things, like popvision,
        Simagent toolkit simworld, neural, etc.

The contents of the above files, and some others, as they are
now are listed here:
    http://www.cs.bham.ac.uk/research/poplog/CONTENTS-OF-TAR-FILES.txt
            452006 bytes
I'll try to remember to update this from time to time.

The most complete package, intended to go on a CD for our students is
    http://www.cs.bham.ac.uk/research/poplog/bham-linux-poplog.tar.gz
            21134493 bytes

Contents described here
    http://www.cs.bham.ac.uk/research/poplog/linux-cd/

Most of this is summarised in
    http://www.cs.bham.ac.uk/research/poplog/freepoplog.html

Aaron
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