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Date:14 Oct 2004 17:52:18 +0100 
Subject:RE: Is sourceforge safe for the openpoplog project? 
From:Ejay Hire 
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I see no reason not to use sourceforge just because some of
their back-end systems are non-open source.  Sourceforge
made a business decision.  It doesn't change what they do.
Personally, I'm of the opinion that open source is at it's
best when it works hand-in-hand with closed source software.

Examples: 
Gimp on windows
Linux Perl chatting with Microsoft Sql
Amanda backing up windows webservers
(my personal favorite) Cisco routers authenticating against
not-free but open source radiator radius speaking Ldap to a
windows 2000 domain.

-ejay

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-pop-forum@cs.bham.ac.uk 
> [mailto:owner-pop-forum@cs.bham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Brent
Fulgham
> Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2004 12:30 AM
> To: Aaron Sloman
> Cc: pop-forum@cs.bham.ac.uk
> Subject: Re: Is sourceforge safe for the openpoplog
project?
> 
> On 2004-10-13 17:51:31 -0700 Aaron Sloman
<A.Sloman@cs.bham.ac.uk> 
> wrote:
> 
> > I wonder if continuing to rely on sourceforge for the
open poplog
> > project
> > 
> >
http://www.cs.bham.ac.uk/research/poplog/openpoplog.html
> > 
> > is a good idea, if this article is to be believed:
> > 
> >
http://fsfeurope.org/news/article2001-10-20-01.en.html
> > 
> > E.g. here's an extract:
> 
> Well, it's true that Sourceforge is now DB2-backed (as
opposed to 
> MySQL or whatever
> it used to use).  This is probably more an effort on VA's
part to 
> appeal to the
> "Enterprise" clients they want to sell Sourceforge to that
some 
> nefarious plot to
> destroy free software.  VA Systems has been a big
supporter of Debian 
> for many
> years, and there are still many Debian developers employed
there full 
> time.
> 
> However, there are several fully Free Software
alternatives 
> that could 
> be used
> to host the project.  These are based on GForce, a fork of
Souceforge 
> created
> prior to the recent unpleasantness:
> 
> 1.  Alioth (Debian's Gforge system):
> 
> http://alioth.debian.org
> 
> 2.  GNU Savannah (GForge System):
> 
> http://savannah.gnu.org
> 
> Either of these sites would be more than happy to host
Poplog.
> 
> -Brent
>