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Date:Mon Mar 13 23:26:08 2001 
Subject:Re: csh/sh not an issue 
From:Aaron Sloman See text for reply address 
Volume-ID:1010313.07 

[To reply replace "Aaron.Sloman.XX" with "A.Sloman"]

ug55aes@cs.bham.ac.uk writes:

> Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 20:58:09 +0000 (UTC)
>
> On Tue, Mar 13, 2001 at 04:29:21AM +0000, Aaron Sloman wrote:
> > 2. The poplog SYSTEM scripts use csh and can be used *whatever*
> > shell the user happens to be using. Moreover csh (or tcsh) is
> > available on *every* unix/linux system.
>
> OK, I will nitpick on this one :)
>
> I could specifically remove csh from my system if I wanted to, and it's
> reasonable to assume that if I could, then someone will.

People who remove programs from vendor-supplied directories that
come with the operating system deserve what they get. (That sort of
thing has caused so much trouble on our non-unix machines that our
computer officers no longer allow users to install/remove programs
on their PCs, not even members of staff: it has to be done by
experts who know what is and isn't save (mostly)).

> Given that
> it's a simple test, I thought I might as well put the check in.

I've not had time to look at your script. I merely wanted to correct
an untrue statement. Unfortunately you have now slipped in another
one I have to correct.

> That said, the bash script `poplog.sh` seems to require pre-set
                                         ^^^^^
> environment variables, whereas `poplog` doesn't.  Is that fair?

It is not true, so fairness is not an issue!

Whichever setup you use only $usepop has to be set in advance.

Optionally you can set $poplib (user's directory for init.p
vedinit.p) and a site can set $poplocal, otherwise they get
default values.

See HELP initial, REF system if you want to know the facts.

What seems to be the case often isnt. It's wise to check first,
especially as messages to pop-forum go to comp.lang.pop and thence
all round the universe!

But thanks for your efforts to provide useful utilities.

Cheers.

Aaron
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Aaron Sloman, ( http://www.cs.bham.ac.uk/~axs/ )
School of Computer Science, The University of Birmingham, B15 2TT, UK
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