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Date:Mon Dec 22 22:10:30 2001 
Subject:Re: Thirty years of frustration (:-/)... 
From:Pete Goodeve 
Volume-ID:1011222.01 

In article <3C233D9B.5C3D@ed.ac.uk>,
Stephen Isard  <S.IsardDeleteThis@ed.ac.uk> wrote:
>Pete Goodeve wrote:
>> http://jwgibbs.cchem.berkeley.edu/pop11
>
>Very nice!  Thanks, I've bookmarked it.

Thanks!  I think I'll try to improve it a bit more and then I'll make
the script itself available.
>
>> reading
>> through a ten-line window is a pain.
>Yes, but there's no need to restrict yourself to that.  Esc-w will
>switch back and forth between the half size and full size ved windows,
>and of course you can make your xterm bigger as well.
Ah, I hadn't noticed that.  It doesn't really help much though, because
it's still the old "single-window terminal" problem.  I'm actually
usually telnetting in to the machine, so I really just have an 80x25
window for the session.  On the other hand the client I'm logging
in from has *lots* of handy windows [BeOS (:-)] so it's mostly more
convenient to have the docs continuously available in a separate one.
>
>If you haven't recompiled the libc5 poplog to include the X interface,
>you won't have xved available at the moment, but that gives you ved in
>its own window whose size you can control like any other.
Don't have X remotely, I'm afraid  [Well I *could* have, I suppose,
but I'm inclined to avoid it where possible...(:-/)]

Cheers,
					-- Pete --