>>>>> On 6 Dec 92 19:32:23 GMT, sfk@otter.hpl.hp.com (Steve Knight) said:
> Well doubtless Aaron will come up with a dozen different ways of doing
> this in VED, together with an explanation of why you shouldn't in the
> first place. However, as I've always been one to pour oil on a fire, read
> on ....
Witty, dangerous but very witty :-) And his suggestions were as usual very
helpful!
> So just redefine the mapping for RETURN and TAB. Not exactly difficult.
True, but the point is I don't want to have to press TAB after pressing the
RETURN key.
> Most people feel that modes are a Bad Thing because it means that you have
> to learn different bindings for different contexts.
Not most EMACS users.
> Unless these contexts are easily distinguished (which, to be fair, they
> generally are in EMACS)
Being fair about EMACS Steve, now there's a novelty.... :-)
> My belief is that VED hasn't got modes because it isn't used as a general
> purpose text interface in the way that EMACS is. EMACS is much much more
> than a text editor -- I always think of it as the world's best mailer.
> I don't think much of it as an editor, but it beats the heck out of most
> mailers that I've seen. Since VED only gets used for 2 tasks, in the main,
> there is too little requirement for multiple modes.
It's also a great news reader, online manual browser (info files), interface
to a lot of system applications (eg a transparent ftp tool) and provides
modes for most of the major languages. I believe there is even a spread
sheet mode on the way.. Its downside for doing POP11 is that it doesn't have
a `close contact' with the language, and things like the debugger don't work
with it. How about a move toward an editor neutral version of poplog? Where
hooks are provided to fit with whatever editor one has come to know and
love.
Tim
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