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Date:Mon Apr 10 20:51:14 2001 
Subject:Tuning linux-poplog 
From:cglur 
Volume-ID:1010410.01 

A.Sloman wrote:
> If you record the vedsetkey commands that solved your problems and email
> them to me I'll make them available to others.

Here are my own key mappings for linux ved, which presently
I need to manually load/compile at session start, since I don't know where
to locate the code for auto-loading:

I guess it would auto-load at ved-start time, if I put it to
$poplib/vedinit.p  ?
1. where is $poplib ?    <enter>%echo $poplib  shows: /root .
2. More important: where is newbie's intruction(s) to find $poplib ?
---
  define :ved_runtime_action;
     vedsetkey('\^[[A', vedcharup);
     vedsetkey('\^[[B', vedchardown);
     vedsetkey('\^[[C', vedcharright);
     vedsetkey('\^[[D', vedcharleft);
     vedsetkey('\^[Ow', vedtextleft);
     vedsetkey('\^[Oq', vedtextright);
     vedsetkey('\^[[24~', '\^[[18~\^[[19~\^D');
  enddefine;

I particularly like the last instruction which maps  <F12> to
<F7> <F8> <Ctrl D>, ie. compile/execute the line 'of the cursor' !

The first argument of vedsetkey is easily found as documented in:
help dk.  The second argument (the word that poplog has allocated to
describe a specific key action), I found ...... ? some-where ? which 
discuss the keys.


Subject: reduced poplog
Stephen Isard wrote:
> The archive is a subset of the linux poplog 15.53 distribution,
> recompiled for linux libc5 and intended particularly for mini-linux
> distributions that run on small machines with older Intel processors. 

I welcome this.  I would have delayed my 'jump into' polog less, if 
the size had been smaller - minimum initial commitment.
It would have been good if you listed the size.
----------------

Of course much of the size and value of linux1553.tar.gz is in the
tutorials.   Once the new user has it installed and the keys 'tuned per
personal preference', the progress depends on the tutorials.  And
especially the route which one navigates through the tutorial set.

I'm very unhappy at my progress with the 'duo' SEARCHING / TOWER.
Having done the recomended text book in the 70's, I'm familiar with
the AI concepts handled but the list manipulations are too acrobatic;
without previous facilities to built up to the required fluency.

SEARCHING / TOWER which seem to arbitrary and with redundancy
devide the tutorial material, seem poorly structured to me.
And lack a successive refinement strategy.  Optimisations/refinements
are discussed before the learner can exercise the simplest 'walks through
state space'.

I could give my recomended structuring, even though I can't 'see' some
of the coding yet. Most important is to realise that only the beginner
still has this point of view - to contribute.

Chris Glur.