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Date:Mon Jan 19 13:26:48 2001 
Subject:Re: teach files 
From:Aaron Sloman See text for reply address 
Volume-ID:1010119.02 

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David L Reece writes:
> Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 12:43:21 +0000
>
> Is there any mechanism for downloading teach files so they can be
> reviewed later, or are they an integral part of the system?

The files are all unix text files which can be copied separately or
fetched in "packages" from the Free Poplog Web site:

    http://www.cs.bham.ac.uk/research/poplog/freepoplog.html

E.g. most of the "local" Birmingham teach and help files files are
in these directories

    http://www.cs.bham.ac.uk/research/poplog/teach/
    http://www.cs.bham.ac.uk/research/poplog/help/

and in this gzipped tar file:

    http://www.cs.bham.ac.uk/research/poplog/bhamteach.tar.gz

There is an 8 Mbyte package that has all the local extras available at
Birmingham

    http://www.cs.bham.ac.uk/research/poplog/popextras.tar

This tar file contains several gzipped tar files with packages mentioned
below and several others, e.g. David Young's popvision package and a
simple neural net package.

The teach and help files associated with different packages are
available in the corresponding gzipped tar files and in the package
sub directories.


E.g. Sim_agent and Poprulebase teach files are included in
this package

    http://www.cs.bham.ac.uk/research/poplog/newkit.tar.gz

and can also be browsed online in these directories

Poprulebase files:
    http://www.cs.bham.ac.uk/research/poplog/prb/teach/
    http://www.cs.bham.ac.uk/research/poplog/prb/help/

Sim_agent files:
    http://www.cs.bham.ac.uk/research/poplog/sim/teach/
    http://www.cs.bham.ac.uk/research/poplog/sim/help/


(replace the directory name with "auto" or "lib" to browse the program
source files.)

You can also fetch the help and teach files that are distributed with
the main poplog system, though some of them have special characters that
can prevent easy viewing if you don't have Ved or XVed available.

These special characters have been stripped out of the documentation
files stored here:

    http://www.cs.bham.ac.uk/research/poplog/doc/

If you have a PC running linux, you can fetch and install Poplog
and use xved and the graphical facilities.

If you have a PC running windows 95/98/NT, you can fetch the pc windows
poplog, but it will not support any graphics or Xved. The "plain"
(dumb-terminal) Ved works fine however.

> The files
> themselves are excellent, but tend to be lengthy (esp. the ones I an
> interested in, namely TEACH SIM_AGENT and TEACH POPRULEBASE). I was also
> wondering about using POP-11 for event-driven programming, namely as an
> interface for a project. Can anyone suggest any useful teach files?

The RCLIB package, bundled in this tar file:

    http://www.cs.bham.ac.uk/research/poplog/rclib.tar.gz

is intended to support the design of graphical interfaces and has
been used for several student projects.

The most complete overview of the facilities is in the (very long)
file HELP RCLIB, also browsable here:
    http://www.cs.bham.ac.uk/research/poplog/rclib/help/rclib

If you are using a running poplog system which has the rclib package
installed (as at Birmingham) you can get a 20-30 minute tutorial
overview of the main facilities in this file (with executable
examples)

    TEACH rclib_demo.p

accessible remotely as

    http://www.cs.bham.ac.uk/research/poplog/rclib/teach/rclib_demo.p

There are several more teach files in the same directory.

If there are specific things you want to do and can't find out how,
post a question. There may be a utility that does it, or an easy
way to modify one.

Aaron
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Aaron Sloman, ( http://www.cs.bham.ac.uk/~axs/ )
School of Computer Science, The University of Birmingham, B15 2TT, UK
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