Not that this will be much use to you, but I've concluded that OS X on
its own is not enough. So in order to run Pop, SlickEdit and other UNIX
applications that aren't yet ported to OS X, I've installed (Mandrake)
linux on a PC. I display on my Mac. I use a P3 700MHz and it's fast
enough. I've also used a P150 and got along just fine. (As an aside,
I'm happy to say that I hardly ever boot the legacy OS (Windows) on
that PC anymore (knock on wood).)
Incidentally, I recommend the OroboroOSX window manager.
Luc
On Saturday, November 30, 2002, at 05:42 PM, Aaron Sloman wrote:
>
> I have had the following query about poplog on Apple OS X
> from "Marcos RODRIGUES(CMS)" <M.Rodrigues@shu.ac.uk>
>
> My reply is appended to his message. Just in case someone has more
> information I am broadcasting this message with his permission.
>
> Feel free to reply direct to him if you know of any work on poplog on
> power PC, or on Apple OS X.
>
> Aaron
>
>> From M.Rodrigues@shu.ac.uk Sat Nov 30 15:36:40 2002
> Return-path: <M.Rodrigues@shu.ac.uk>
> Date: Sat, 30 Nov 2002 15:33:42 +0000
> Subject: Poplog under XDarwin/MacOSX
> To: A.Sloman@cs.bham.ac.uk
> From: "Marcos RODRIGUES(CMS)" <M.Rodrigues@shu.ac.uk>
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> Hi,
>
> I wonder if any of the available Unix versions would run on Mac OS X?
> I have installed X11 from XFree86.org and have XWindows up and running
> happily on my Mac, so I suspect that it may be possible?
> Thanks for your advice,
>
> Marcos Rodrigues.
>
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>> From Aaron Sloman Sat Nov 30 16:20:03 GMT 2002
> To: "Marcos RODRIGUES(CMS)" <M.Rodrigues@shu.ac.uk>
> Subject: Re: Poplog under XDarwin/MacOSX
>
> Marcos,
>
> Thanks for your message.
>
>> I wonder if any of the available Unix versions would run on Mac OS X?
>> I have installed X11 from XFree86.org and have XWindows up and running
>> happily on my Mac, so I suspect that it may be possible?
>
> Yes, but it will need some work to be done by someone who is familiar
> with some of the innards of poplog, and will require a working poplog
> on
> another machine.
>
> There was a port of poplog to IBM aix on Power PC, though I don't know
> if anyone still has or uses a working version of that. But the full
> system. as it was in 1998, including sources is available at the free
> poplog site:
>
> http://www.cs.bham.ac.uk/research/poplog/new/powaix-15.52.tar.gz
> 15324443 bytes
>
> I doubt that the system calls are compatible with OS X, though I assume
> the code to generate machine instructions at run time will work for the
> incremental compiler.
>
> I don't know whether OS X and AIX use the same unix assembler. If not
> some changes will have to made to the portion of the system that
> generates assembler files for rebuilding poplog.
>
> The core of poplog is mostly written in pop-11, which is why a working
> version is needed to recompile and bootstrap a new version. There are
> also a few assembler files that may need editing and some C files
> that may need editing.
>
> For someone who understands poplog and how to port it the work could
> take between a few days and a few weeks. I don't know enough to give
> an accurate estimate.
>
> I understand that OS X is based on Freebsd rather than linux, and I
> don't know how much impact that difference makes. I have been told
> that PC linux poplog works as it is under freebsd, which is a good
> sign.
>
> It would be nice to get poplog ported to OS X, but I don't know of
> anyone who has the motivation and the time!
>
> Is it something you'd like to work on?
>
> It's possible that you could get a different answer by posting to the
> comp.lang.pop newsgroup or the pop-forum@cs.bham.ac.uk email list,
> which
> is linked to the newsgroup.
>
> I could post your message if you wish.
>
> [He replied saying yes please.]
>
> Aaron
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