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Date:Mon Jan 23 17:40:53 1996 
Subject:Re: Loading Poplog on a PC 
From:Richard Matthias 
Volume-ID:960125.01 

John Williams (johnw@uk.ac.susx.cogs) wrote:
: Can anyone help with this:

I'll try my best! :-)

: > From: "Ricardo Paloschi" <ricardop@cogs.susx.ac.uk>
: >         I have a 486 SX 25MHZ with 8 Megabytes of memory and have succesfully
: > loaded MiniLinux and Poplog on it. Both obtained from the Cogs FTP Server.
: > Linux runs fine but poplog won't run. When I try to run Poplog I get a message
: > saying 'insufficient memory to restore saved image' or something like that.
: > The only way I can get Poplog running is if a create some virtual memory from
: > Linux. This is not very good as it runs incredibly slow.

I haven't use miniLinux (maybe Ian Rogers could offer more precise
information), but it sounds like you should interpret the error message
literally. Linux simply doesn't have enough memory to run poplog on your
system. Linux/poplog takes about 6.5Megs of memory when running on my system.
If you start up more than one copy then about 3Megs of that is shared amongst
the multiple copies. If you only have 8 megs of Ram in total then you have a
major problem as there are many other things competing for ram as well as the
kernel and poplog.

As you say, you should create a swap file of around 12megs at least. You say
this is slow on your system. Are you creating a swap partition on your drive
or is the swap residing in a file on either a dos or linux partition. If your
swap area is not in its own partition it will be very slow. Even if you have
created the best possible setup, it will still be slow. You should have 16
megs of memory to run Linux/poplog.

: >         The other problem I have is once Poplog is running, the ENTER key does
: > not seem to work properly, it acts as a RETURN key. This makes VED impossible
: > to use.

This is a common problem that is mostly not the fault of poplog. VED will
load a terminal driver dependent on the TERM environment variable. I know for
a fact that different shells used for linux will set the term variable to
different values. It probably also varies between Linux distributions. I
couldn't suggest a way to fix this without seeing the machine that you are
using, or trying poplog with minilinux myself. Sorry.

Richard
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