belated reply to Cherry:
cherry@sdf.lonestar.org writes:
> Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 13:56:38 +0000 (UTC)
>
> Is the CVS repository functional ? The
> http://www.poplog.org/scripts/cvsweb/packages link doesn't seem to work.
Jeff Best has now answered this.
> Once again, I want to point out that such a large piece of sofware as
> poplog should be under CVS. If nobody has the time for that, I'd like to
> help out. Pls point out the resource (ie; cvs server) or tell me if its ok
> to start a repository on sourceforge.
And this.
> Aaron, I'm sure you'd be able to appreciate the decentralized nature of
> development, once the CVS way has been run in.
In principle yes. In practice the work I do tends to be mainly based
round trying to produce package that our students can easily install
on home linux PCs to get the same environment as we provide on our
suns and linux machines in the department. This often has to be
done in a hurry squeezed in between all sorts of other things. I
edit program files, build systems, and do tests, and then run simple
shell scripts to in stall files in this directory:
http://www.cs.bham.ac.uk/research/poplog/
At the moment very few others are working on this - and those who do
are also very busy and may or may not have easy access to an
environment in which they can play with rebuilding poplog. So they
may send me code or suggestions instead.
There are some exceptions, e.g. Steve Isard maintains the mini-linux
poplog system, David Young goes on developing his popvision system,
which I copy over to the Birmingham site every now and again from
Sussex, Jeff Best works on the windows poplog port (to which Nico Aragon
also made some contributions several months ago) and Waldek Hebisch, who
is not a poplog user, but is interested enough to read postings here
has also contributed some very useful ideas and helped with testing.
Poplog is extraordinarily robust, thanks to all the design and
development work done by John Gibson and others at Sussex university
in the past, so there is not much call for frequent bug-fixing
activities. There are a number of minor anomalies which are
gradually being addressed (e.g. inconsistencies in Ved key-bindings
and difficulties of installing poplog), and some things that need a
big redesign push to bring it up to date, but that will probably
require funding to hire an expert programmer to work on the system.
So at this stage use of sourceforge and CVS would just slow me down,
including finding time to learn to use it when I am behind with many
things.
> P'haps we'd even be able to
> write a front end to CVS for ved, just like emacs pcl-cvs. ( I'm not
> certain it exists now ... )
There is no Ved front end for CVS, as far as I know, but if it can be
done in Emacs it can probably be done in Ved (which I use as a front end
for all sorts of things, including reading and posting email, reading
and posting news, interacting with latex, etc.)
I'll now use Ved to post this via our local news server.
Aaron
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