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Date:Mon Apr 11 13:49:44 2001 
Subject:Re: Tuning linux-poplog 
From:Stephen Isard 
Volume-ID:1010411.01 

cglur@onwe.co.za wrote:

> Subject: reduced poplog
<snip>
> It would have been good if you listed the size.

The current size is 2815730 bytes.  As I said, my goal was to make it
fit on two 1.44Mb floppies.  There's still just of bit of extra room if
people have nominations for files that they think no one can do without.

> Of course much of the size and value of linux1553.tar.gz is in the
> tutorials.   Once the new user has it installed and the keys 'tuned per
> personal preference', the progress depends on the tutorials.  And
> especially the route which one navigates through the tutorial set.

You have to remember that these materials were developed in a
teaching/learning environment where the students did their work in a
common "terminal room", where they could talk to each other and to
experienced users who were available most of the time.  That put less of
a premium on spelling everything out to the last detail.  There will
have to be considerable adaptation for a setup in which people learn
essentially on their own, getting help from newsgroups like this.  I
would hope that a big contribution would come from people like yourself,
who have learned that way, writing the materials that they wish they had
had when they started.  (I realise there will have to be some initial
delay :-) )

On the other hand, the users for whom the materials were originally
intended had often quite literally never been in the presence of a
computer terminal before.  It ought to simplify things somewhat to be
able to assume a bit more sophistication than that in today's new user.

Vesa A Norrman wrote:

> (1) How do I make ved start in full window mode instead of half
>     window mode?

In plain ved, as opposed to xved, you can achieve it by putting the
command

vedscreenlength -> vedstartwindow;

in your vedinit.p file.  The trouble is, that effectively stops you ever
getting two windows on the screen.  Maybe someone else has a better
idea.

> (2) How do execute ENTER commands if ved considers both of my enter
>     keys as return keys?

Ctrl-G will get you to the command line unless things have got really
messed up.  See HELP VEDKEYS (the file $usepop/pop/help/vedkeys) for a
whole lot of control and escape sequences you can use until you have
your function keys sorted out.

> (3) What is the key command for following hyperlinks?
Can you expand on that, please? The ENTER-g sequence will move you to
a section of a documentation file from a line in the contents section.
Is that what you have in mind?

Stephen Isard