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Date:Mon Nov 22 10:37:26 1999 
Subject:Re: windows version ox ved/xved? 
From:Roger Evans 
Volume-ID:991122.01 

> > Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1999 16:50:59 -0000
> > Organization: UUNET WorldCom server (post doesn't reflect views of UUNET WorldCom
> >
> > Having just installed poplog on my home pc I was wondering if there is an
> > editor equivalent to ved / xved for windows 95 for use with pop-11
>
> There's no Xved on windows - until someone provides graphical
> facilities for windows poplog.
>
> If you start pop-11, you will get a colon prompt. From that
> prompt commands like
>
>     help vedkeys
>
>     teach eliza
>
>     ved myfile
>
> etc. should all work. You'll get a "dumb terminal" version of Ved,
> in which you can view at most two files at a time. See
>
>     TEACH BUFFERS
>
> You may have a lot of trouble getting Ved to recognize the
> function keys on your keyboard. So looking at the Emacs-like
> facilities described in HELP VEDKEYS could be useful, especially
>
>         ^G  Enter a command                             ENTER
>     ESC ^G  Switch to/from command line                 SWITCHSTATUS
> ESC RETURN  Redo command on command line                REDOCOMMAND
>
> Also
>      ESC m  Mark start of range                         MARKLO
>      ESC M  Mark end of range                           MARKHI
>      ESC C  Mark the current procedure                  ENTER mcp
>
>      ESC g  Go to start of marked range                 MARKFIND
>      ESC G  Go to end of marked range                   ENDRANGE
>
> If you make good progress, post what you have discovered to
> comp.lang.pop, as others may find it useful.


Hi Aaron,

The impression I got from this reply is that you were describing the
dos-prompt version of pop11, rather than the winpop11 system (which puts
you into ved in immediate mode). In this mode things like the enter key
do work if your keyboard has one (though if it doesn't you need to fall
back on ctrl G etc as you describe). Also winpop11 supports resizing,
cut and paste etc - its a well-behaved windows client - so its far
preferable to the dos version. Its also the version you get from the
'Start' menu if you just did standard installation.

Forgive me if I misunderstood.

Roger