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Date:Tue, 13 Jul 2004 18:25:45 +0000 (UTC) 
Subject:Re: Poplog Xved Problems 
From:A . Sloman 
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Richard,

> I did have some problems linking NEWPOP11 but I think I sorted this out with
> some previous advice from the forum.

I suspect you have ended up with a version of newpop11 that does not
include motif.

> poplog xved myfile.p - Brings me up what I assume to be Ved (it says this on
> the top rhs)

Where that label appears will depend on your window manager. I use
ctwm and the label is on the left of the title bar.

> Unfortunately Ved does not have the top menu bar I'm used to and I am unsure
> how to correct this issue.

This is what would happen if you were running a version of poplog that
does not include motif. If you have /usr/X11R6/lib/libXm.so it should be
possible to link with motif.

You can try re-linking using the newpop command

	poplog /usr/local/poplog/v15.53/pop/src/newpop  x=-xm -link only

if that works, then you can do it again without '-link only'
and it should link and install, and rebuild the images in
$popsavelib.

	poplog /usr/local/poplog/v15.53/pop/src/newpop x=-xm

Then rebuild the local bham images

	poplog /usr/local/poplog/local/com/mkstartup.local

	poplog /usr/local/poplog/local/com/mkxved.local

and if you want prolog, lisp, pml also:
	poplog /usr/local/poplog/local/com/mkplog.local
	poplog /usr/local/poplog/local/com/mkclisp.local
	poplog /usr/local/poplog/local/com/mkpml.local


> Also the editor does not recognize the <enter>
> key which means I cannot access the help files directly.

Temporarily you can use CTRL G for enter. See
	http://www.cs.bham.ac.uk/research/poplog/teach/telnetkeys

Or you may have it already in
	/usr/local/poplog/local/teach/telnetkeys

>
> I did find a help xved file which told me to try:-
>
> uses xved;
> xvedsetup();
> teach xved;
>
> whilst in poplog pop11 however this does not work.
>
> When I type XMOTIF => and XOPENLOOK=> i get <false> both times.

Are you sure you don'g get <under XMOTIF> etc. ?

What about

	XLINK_TYPE=>

I get
	** motif

	XLINK_EXLIBS=>
gives me
	** [<ident [-L/usr/X11R6/lib]> <ident [-lXm -lXt -lXext -lX11]>]

> Although I could probably use Ved I am unsure how to and would prefer the
> functionality of XVed.

It sounded from your description that you had xved without motif. But
maybe I misunderstood. When you have Ved running and you read in another
file, e.g.

	ENTER teach ved

does it produce another window that you can move separately, or does it
simply divide the existing window.

If the former, you have XVed. If the latter you somehow failed to
start XVed.

This should definitely do it:
	poplog xved


Aaron