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Date:Tue, 16 Mar 2004 01:21:30 +0000 (UTC) 
Subject:Re: Eliminating termcap (Was: Re: 15.53 - Windows Installer Available) 
From:Aaron Sloman 
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I wrote a few days ago that I would rebuild all the relevant
poplog packages for pc+linux without termcap.

> That will save Mandrake users, SuSe users and others a lot of
> hassle, and I can then simplify the installation documentation.

I have now created a version of pc-linux poplog which does not depend on
termcap and would like to have it tested on a system without termcap
e.g Mandrake or Suse.

I have tested it on Redhat 8, and Redhat 9, and after installation it
runs OK with the termcap libraries disabled, but I can't run the
installation scripts without termcap because on these systems, bash,
tcsh and ls all seem to require termcap!

So I am hoping that someone else can check that the installation works
OK without termcap.

The easiest way would be to download the whole self-install package:
    http://www.cs.bham.ac.uk/research/poplog/bham-linux-poplog.tar.gz
        21243888 bytes Mar 16 00:53

and then follow instructions here:
    http://www.cs.bham.ac.uk/research/poplog/linux-cd/SHORT-CUT-INSTALLATION.txt
    (Install with, or without, motif).

For people who want smaller packages try one of these two:

    http://www.cs.bham.ac.uk/research/poplog/new/linux-pc-1553e.tar.gz
        10059311 bytes Mar 16 00:08
        A minimal complete poplog for experts familiar with poplog
        installation. E.g. you can untar this into
            /usr/local/poplog/v15.53
                the linking scripts are in the INSTALL subdirectory


    http://www.cs.bham.ac.uk/research/poplog/new/linux-poplog.tar.gz
        12979155 bytes Mar 16 00:53
        This includes the above minimal package plus things needed to
        install the minimal bham configuration. e.g. does not include
        simagent, popvision and other extras, but does include rclib.

Anyone who is really brave and wants only the most recent changes
to untar in an existing $usepop/pop can fetch this and then relink:

    http://www.cs.bham.ac.uk/research/poplog/new/notermcap.tar.gz
        2240781 bytes Mar 15 23:30

(I have not checked that it will work like that.)

That provides the following changed source files:
    src/termcap.p
    ved/src/vdtermcap.p
    ved/src/vdinitseq.p

    src/newpop_options
        (this one merely altered to remove rsv default).

The altered binary archives (derived from the above)
    obj/src.olb
    obj/src.wlb
    obj/vedsrc.olb
    obj/vedsrc.wlb

Most of the contents of
    pop/

including a new corepop (for rebuilding system images like popc.psv and
newpop.psv) and a new basepop11 linked for motif,

In case basepop11 and corepop both do not run there is a poplink_cmnd
which links a newpop11 with motif, and a poplink_cmnd.nomotif
which links a newpop11 without motif. After that ask for help.

Aaron
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Aaron Sloman, ( http://www.cs.bham.ac.uk/~axs/ )
School of Computer Science, The University of Birmingham, B15 2TT, UK
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